Guest GodzFire Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 Just wanted to say what a great job you've done with Dial-A-Fix, and what an incredible resource it is for troubleshooting in my IT job. I am wondering though; it's been over 1.5 years or so since the last release. Does this mean there will be no further updates to DAF? I sure hope the answer is just the opposite!
Eldmannen Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 I think there will be a new version with better 64-bit or Vista support or something. Or if DjLizard finds a new way to fix something...
Administrator Tarun Posted June 11, 2008 Administrator Posted June 11, 2008 DjLizard said: My wiki is being taken over by Lunarsoft.net, where it will finally get updated, but I'm not sure what to do with Dial-a-fix just yet. If I find the time and desire, I might update it, but that's not likely to happen very soon (if at all). I work about 60 hours a week now. Hopefully I can find some trustworthy developers to pass on the "legacy" of Dial-a-fix.
Eldmannen Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 If he dont' have time for it, he should just open source it... imho
Administrator Tarun Posted June 11, 2008 Administrator Posted June 11, 2008 Unfortunately open sourcing it could easily destroy it and avert it from it's primary objective.
Eldmannen Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 Unfortunately open sourcing it could easily destroy it and avert it from it's primary objective. Doubt so. Nobody destroyed Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP, Firefox or OpenOffice.org.
SenutyEnool Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Thing is, with open source, all it takes is for someone to get there hands on the current 'product' and change more than 30% of it (if memory serves correct - that's here in Aus), rename it, patent it and voila, it's suddenly a commercial product. Yeah, it probably would have to be someone with low scruples and sense of 'fair play', but those type of people are out there. It wouldn't suprise if someone did this in the not so distant future. Cheers :)
SenutyEnool Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Ahh, before I forget, phpNuke (or one of the derivatives) was sold and it was to a degree 'open source' before the money factor set in. Cheers :)
Eldmannen Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Thing is, with open source, all it takes is for someone to get there hands on the current 'product' and change more than 30% of it (if memory serves correct - that's here in Aus), rename it, patent it and voila, it's suddenly a commercial product. Yeah, it probably would have to be someone with low scruples and sense of 'fair play', but those type of people are out there. It wouldn't suprise if someone did this in the not so distant future. Cheers Oh, I don't know about that. But then, I don't live in Australia. I guess Australia follows the WIPO (World Intellectual Property Organization) like most other country in the United Nations. Patents are for inventions. Copyright are for works. True that there is no shortage of as****** though. Ahh, before I forget, phpNuke (or one of the derivatives) was sold and it was to a degree 'open source' before the money factor set in. Cheers Yes, phpNuke was sold. I believe it is still open source though. The latest version is commercial though, so you have to pay for it, but that is in accordance with open source.
SenutyEnool Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 1. I guess Australia follows the WIPO (World Intellectual Property Organization) like most other country in the United Nations. 2. Patents are for inventions. Copyright are for works. 3. True that there is no shortage of as****** though. 1. Yes I believe we do abide by it, but haven't really looked into it. 2. Ah. Didn't know that, thanks for the heads up. Learn something new each day....... 3. Amen to that. Cheers :)
DjLizard Posted June 17, 2008 Posted June 17, 2008 Unfortunately open sourcing it could easily destroy it and avert it from it's primary objective. Doubt so. Nobody destroyed Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP, Firefox or OpenOffice.org. Those are major software packages (and Linux is a fricking kernel). Malware authors and scam artists are not smart enough to be able to use the code in those packages for anything. It's not that easy to slip a few lines of code in, change a few logos, and pass those things off as malware or fake PC repair software to the masses, but that could happen quite easily to a small-time program like Dial-a-fix. It would be very easy for WinAntiSpyware or others to bundle it in their programs and sully my name into the ground by making it not work, or report fake repairs. Hell, they might even make a lot of money if they straight-up use Dial-a-fix since DAF actually *does something*, where most of their fake PC repair programs are garbage.
Eldmannen Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Unfortunately open sourcing it could easily destroy it and avert it from it's primary objective. Doubt so. Nobody destroyed Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP, Firefox or OpenOffice.org. Those are major software packages (and Linux is a fricking kernel). Malware authors and scam artists are not smart enough to be able to use the code in those packages for anything. It's not that easy to slip a few lines of code in, change a few logos, and pass those things off as malware or fake PC repair software to the masses, but that could happen quite easily to a small-time program like Dial-a-fix. It would be very easy for WinAntiSpyware or others to bundle it in their programs and sully my name into the ground by making it not work, or report fake repairs. Hell, they might even make a lot of money if they straight-up use Dial-a-fix since DAF actually *does something*, where most of their fake PC repair programs are garbage. Even without the source code, they could make an own software they they name Dial-a-fix and pass it off as malware or fake PC repair software to the masses. Without the source code, it would be very easy for WinAntiSpyware or others to make an own software they call Dial-a-fix and sully your name into the ground by making it not work, or report fake repairs.
DjLizard Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Even without the source code, they could make an own software they they name Dial-a-fix and pass it off as malware or fake PC repair software to the masses. Without the source code, it would be very easy for WinAntiSpyware or others to make an own software they call Dial-a-fix and sully your name into the ground by making it not work, or report fake repairs. Sometimes, having access to the code versus not having access is what pushes the decision over the line towards ripping it off.
Eldmannen Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Even without the source code, they could make an own software they they name Dial-a-fix and pass it off as malware or fake PC repair software to the masses. Without the source code, it would be very easy for WinAntiSpyware or others to make an own software they call Dial-a-fix and sully your name into the ground by making it not work, or report fake repairs. Sometimes, having access to the code versus not having access is what pushes the decision over the line towards ripping it off. Probably true. Sucks not to be able to do a good thing though, because of what others may do. Especially when they can do something bad regardless of what you do.
Guest GodzFire Posted July 7, 2008 Posted July 7, 2008 So........still didn't really get a straight answer from you DJLizard.
Administrator Tarun Posted July 7, 2008 Administrator Posted July 7, 2008 GodzFire, please read this post.
DjLizard Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 We're working on finding a new team to work on it right now.
Guest Simon Zerafa Posted October 2, 2008 Posted October 2, 2008 Hi, Sorry to bump an older post but is there any news on the future of DAF? Has someone taken over maintanance and development of the current DAF or has the project been shelved / abandoned? Kind Regards Simon Zerafa Simon's PC Services
Administrator Tarun Posted October 2, 2008 Administrator Posted October 2, 2008 Hi Simon, We're still looking for someone to help take over the Dial-a-fix project. Applicants are welcome!
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